Zircher misses the points
2 Comments Published by Avi Green on Saturday, January 03, 2015 at 8:34 AM.
Zircher wrote another leftist argument where he said:
The problem isn't whether an artist/writer/editor is liberal per se, but rather, whether they can conduct any of their arguments with a bit of rationale, and there are some who can, if they make their personal politics clear. Better still, there's even some who leave most of their politics at the door, or keep them to a minimum, like George Perez, Marv Wolfman, Walter & Louise Simonson, Jerry Ordway, Elliot Maggin, Len Wein and some others. Most of them stay out of too many political issues, and they don't inject too much into their comic book work either. And I've never seen them pulling the kind of prejudiced stunts The Truth: Red, White and Black, Identity Crisis, Avengers: Disassembled and Civil War sank into.
There's also the matter of whether left-wing artists/writers are willing to help their conservative counterparts avoid discrimination, as Chuck Dixon's been through with the mainstream, and Mike Baron was too. To date, it doesn't seem like many leftists are willing to stick up for their conservative counterparts and prove they don't let partisan politics get in the way.
Zircher also recently posted that I "ranted" about his take on North Korea, acting as though I didn't see that as a positive thing at all, going on to say I jump to the strangest conclusions. It's not hard to guess he resents the suggestion I made he should try and make friends with right-wingers, and put words into my mouth in revenge. What, if a rightie offered him a delicious chocolate chip cookie, he'd reject his/her friendship on the spot? If Ronald Reagan wanted to put Zircher's art on display in the White House as a tribute, he'd shun him too? Yeesh. All this from a guy who leaped to the conclusion Darren Wilson was automatically guilty, and Michael Brown automatically innocent, bought into the words of a whole shipload of J. Jonah Jamesons and their Ministry of Truth instantaneously without question, and trivialized all the vandalism of stores. And I think he knows it. I feel sorry for Zircher, who's one of various artists & writers who can't learn from those liberal creators who do approach specific subjects with more rationale, or don't go miles out of their way to support divisive ideas.
Art is art, artist's politics really don't matter but to despair the majority of artists lean left shows a lack of understanding of artists.
— Patch Zircher (@PatrickZircher) December 31, 2014
The problem isn't whether an artist/writer/editor is liberal per se, but rather, whether they can conduct any of their arguments with a bit of rationale, and there are some who can, if they make their personal politics clear. Better still, there's even some who leave most of their politics at the door, or keep them to a minimum, like George Perez, Marv Wolfman, Walter & Louise Simonson, Jerry Ordway, Elliot Maggin, Len Wein and some others. Most of them stay out of too many political issues, and they don't inject too much into their comic book work either. And I've never seen them pulling the kind of prejudiced stunts The Truth: Red, White and Black, Identity Crisis, Avengers: Disassembled and Civil War sank into.
There's also the matter of whether left-wing artists/writers are willing to help their conservative counterparts avoid discrimination, as Chuck Dixon's been through with the mainstream, and Mike Baron was too. To date, it doesn't seem like many leftists are willing to stick up for their conservative counterparts and prove they don't let partisan politics get in the way.
Zircher also recently posted that I "ranted" about his take on North Korea, acting as though I didn't see that as a positive thing at all, going on to say I jump to the strangest conclusions. It's not hard to guess he resents the suggestion I made he should try and make friends with right-wingers, and put words into my mouth in revenge. What, if a rightie offered him a delicious chocolate chip cookie, he'd reject his/her friendship on the spot? If Ronald Reagan wanted to put Zircher's art on display in the White House as a tribute, he'd shun him too? Yeesh. All this from a guy who leaped to the conclusion Darren Wilson was automatically guilty, and Michael Brown automatically innocent, bought into the words of a whole shipload of J. Jonah Jamesons and their Ministry of Truth instantaneously without question, and trivialized all the vandalism of stores. And I think he knows it. I feel sorry for Zircher, who's one of various artists & writers who can't learn from those liberal creators who do approach specific subjects with more rationale, or don't go miles out of their way to support divisive ideas.
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It was not long ago that leftists threatened a boycott over a script written by Orson Scott Card. Now, suddenly, an artist's politics "don't matter."
"The problem isn't whether an artist/writer/editor is liberal per se, but rather, whether they can conduct any of their arguments with a bit of rationale"
You don't even have to go that far -- just don't be a total DICK about espousing your views and/or reacting to those of differing opinion.