The Four Color Media Monitor

Can you back up your claim that Groening and Epstein were "best pals"?
Can you back up your assertation that there were "associations" (plural)?
There MAY have been ONE ENCOUNTER with one rich guy hitching a ride from another rich guy one time. All else is you making unsupported accusations against someone you take to be anti-Trump.

The sad fact is that Epstein hung out with everyone who was anyone, and with all the rich geezers, including Donald Trump. Republicans and democrats alike.

The musical number isn't hostile to Melania or immigrants. It is pointing out a double standard, that Trump says black and brown people who grew up here, or in some cases were born here to families that have lived here for generations, are less American than a white immigrant who came here as an adult.

How quick the trolls defend a child abuser...and a 16 y.o. sex slave giving you a foot massage IS child abuse..

Have no plans on defending anybody, let alone child abusers (in fact, if anything, Epstein deserved what he got, and Groening definitely deserves some negative feedback for his association with Epstein. The only negative regarding Epstein is that he died before we could divulge intel on all his associates.).

However, I want to make clear that 16 year olds are NOT children. Children are people 12 years old or younger. That doesn't make what they did on the Lolita Express any less sick, however.

"The musical number isn't hostile to Melania or immigrants. It is pointing out a double standard, that Trump says black and brown people who grew up here, or in some cases were born here to families that have lived here for generations, are less American than a white immigrant who came here as an adult."

Melania Trump at least was shown to support America. And just as an FYI, Ben Carson, who last I checked is Black, is part of Trump's cabinet, as the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, I believe, so he most certainly isn't doing a double standard with anyone. And quite frankly, people who condemned America's existence is NOT American in any way other than maybe citizenship.

'people who condemned America's existence?' Trump attacked four congresswomen as being in America on sufferance. Which of them condemned America's existence and how? For that matter, when did Melania show that she supported America? She is not the most vocal of first ladies.

And since when does having one token in office mean there is no double standard? Double standards are about treating different groups of people differently for the wrong reasons; it is not about 100% exclusion.

"'people who condemned America's existence?' Trump attacked four congresswomen as being in America on sufferance. Which of them condemned America's existence and how? For that matter, when did Melania show that she supported America? She is not the most vocal of first ladies."

No, he attacked four congresswomen for condemning America as a nation, as well as having the audacity to imply that illegal immigrants are closer to citizens than those actual naturalized citizenry. Don't believe me, here's a whole list of stuff they said: https://menrec.com/twenty-two-times-the-squad-has-proven-theyre-anti-american/

And I'll supply a full list for you, for each of the members:
Ilian Omar:
•Dismissed 9/11 as “some people did something” and refused to answer if she was “pro-al Qaeda.”
•Tweeted that US support for Israel was “all about the Benjamins” and when she was asked what she meant, she responded “AIPAC!”
•Described acts of terrorism as a reaction to United States’ “involvement in other people’s affairs.”
•Said “ignorance really is pervasive in many parts of this country”
•Blamed America for the crisis in Venezuela.
•Attacked American soldiers for the Black Hawk Down mission.

Rashida Talib:
•Defended Omar’s 9/11 comments saying “She does speak truth.”
•Has a long history of associating with terrorists.

AOC:
•Said the current state of America is “garbage.”
•Claimed that the United States is running “concentration camps” on the Southern US border.
•Said illegal immigrants are “more American than any person who seeks to keep them out ever will be.”
•Refused to condemn socialist Venezuelan dictator Nicolas Maduro, but eagerly attacked U.S. Special Representative for Venezuela Elliott Abrams.
•Defended Omar’s disgusting 9/11 comments and said we shouldn’t be allowed to show pictures of the terrorist attack because it is “triggering.”

Ayanna Pressley:
•Accused minority Border Patrol agents as a “cog” in a machine of oppression.
•Called for the defunding of ICE, claiming the agency is “irrevocably broken.”
•And to top it all off, when asked to condemn the Antifa terrorist attack at an ICE facility in Washington State this past weekend, Pressley attacked the media, AOC was silent, and Omar was silent.

They could have been as white as John McCain or Donald Trump, and I STILL would have condemned them for all of that. Ethnicity means absolutely nothing to me.

As far as Melania, at least she didn't pretty much back the terrorists when discussing 9/11 or advocate firebombing the ICE camps.

"And since when does having one token in office mean there is no double standard? Double standards are about treating different groups of people differently for the wrong reasons; it is not about 100% exclusion."

Ah, yeah, actually, it DOES mean that, since that's kind of the point. Besides, have you forgotten that blacks and Hispanics have the lowest unemployment rate under Trump, something Obama ought to envy and DOES envy right now (heck, has the lowest unemployment rate since I think the 1950s)? I don't think that points to a double standard. If anything, the Congressional Black Caucus and whoever the Latino advocacy group is in Congress refusing to support Trump in SPITE of doing exactly what they wished to do to help their groups is closer to an actual double standard.

None of the things attributed to the congresswomen up above amount to condemning america's existence, which was the accusation you (eotness) leveled against them. Some are distorted quotes taken out of context to mean the opposite of what was said. Others are disagreements over policy, not opposition to America. It is in the nature of America to encourage and value dissent; the US is not a dictatorship.

You can condemn them all you want; that is your privilege. But they are stil every bit as American as you are.

If a minority person has to be three times as good to get the job, or if majority people get away with things that cause minority people to be pilloried, that is a double standard. Some people get ahead and do well despite this, some people are three times as good, but the double standard is still there.

"None of the things attributed to the congresswomen up above amount to condemning america's existence, which was the accusation you (eotness) leveled against them. Some are distorted quotes taken out of context to mean the opposite of what was said. Others are disagreements over policy, not opposition to America. It is in the nature of America to encourage and value dissent; the US is not a dictatorship."

Yeah, actually, they did. Saying "current state of America is garbage" is by definition a condemnation on its existence. Besides, I can supply you with links to each one of their statements at the original sources included in the earlier link:

Ilian Omar:
*https://twitter.com/LizRNC/status/1150880206099484672?s=20
*https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1150888312451850245
*https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/ilhan-omar-tweets-u-s-politicians-support-for-israel-is-all-about-the-benjamins-1.6920117
*https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ilhan-omar-once-blamed-our-involvement-in-other-peoples-affairs-al-shabab-attack-on-kenyan-mall
*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB8gjGB5gZA
*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=258-ajBUP5Y
*https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ilhan-omar-claims-us-forces-killed-thousands-of-somalis-during-black-hawk-down-resurfaced-tweet-shows

Rashida Talib:
*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC75wB5nOTM
*https://www.jpost.com/American-Politics/ZOA-calls-to-remove-Rashida-Tlaib-from-Democratic-party-587842

AOC:
*https://ijr.com/ocasio-cortez-america-garbage-reagan-racist/
*https://twitter.com/LizRNC/status/1150880218300780550
*https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/01/08/alexandria_ocasio-cortez_illegal_immigrants_act_more_american_than_citizens_trying_to_keep_them_out.html
*https://twitter.com/LizRNC/status/1150880236806037510?s=20
*https://twitter.com/jason_donner/status/1116429381545668614?s=20

Ayanna Pressley:
*https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/ayanna-pressley-minority-border-agents-act-as-a-cog-in-machine-of-oppression
*https://twitter.com/AyannaPressley/status/1011347330770046977
*https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/briannasacks/ice-detention-attack-killed-washington-antifa-manifesto
*https://twitter.com/RebelNewsOnline/status/1150895629113200641?s=20
*https://twitter.com/RebelNewsOnline/status/1150875308599500801?s=20
*https://twitter.com/RebelNewsOnline/status/1150871413215158277?s=20

And while it's true that America is not a dictatorship, that doesn't mean it should roll over in terms of free speech like King Louis XVI did and capitulate to mobs and demagogues who want us dead. And maybe I should remind you that George Washington actually exiled Citizen Genet for trying to establish French Revolution-style groups in America, and that wasn't a violation of freedom of speech. We're not France.

"You can condemn them all you want; that is your privilege. But they are stil every bit as American as you are."

No, the second they condemn America's existence and actually root for the murder of people working at ICE and Republicans, heck, against fellow Americans, they've stopped being American as far as I'm concerned.

"If a minority person has to be three times as good to get the job, or if majority people get away with things that cause minority people to be pilloried, that is a double standard. Some people get ahead and do well despite this, some people are three times as good, but the double standard is still there."

That's your first mistake, thinking we ought to have equality of results. And quite frankly, by your logic, you should condemn the leftist mobs who literally silence Conservative speakers from College Campuses, yet you're not doing that. You're the one engaging in a double standard.

To take an obvious example, Ocasio-Cortez never called America garbage. She said that America was " powerful and just and good and equitable and productive" and for that reason we shouldn't settle for political policies and programs that were '10 percent better from garbage'. She was crticising politicians, Republicans and Democrats alike, not America.

Concentration camps are places where large numbers of people, especially political prisoners or members of persecuted minorities, are deliberately imprisoned in a relatively small area with inadequate facilities, usually without a hearing. How are the internment facilities on the border not concentration camps? They are not Nazi concentration camps, they are not extermination camps or forced labor camps, but the term concentration camp existed long before the Germans set up theirs.

Meanwhile, we have a president who campaigned on a slogan that America was no longer great, and has called Baltimore an infected mess. That sounds more like 'current state of America is garbage' than anything Ocasio-Cortez ever said; those words never came out of her mouth.

Black people tend to be last hired and first fired.These days Trump is already warning people that economic downturn is in the offing and trying to figure out who else to blame for it.

Genet was a citizen of France, not America. He was returned to France for his actions, not his words. And the problem with the revolutionary mob in France was not that they were exercising their right to free speech, nor was the monarchy a cause worth fighting for.

Is it so beyond the pale to believe that people who come here to pursue the American Dream are more American in their soul than the people who imprison them and take their children permanently away from them? Or than the people who put other Americans in jail for leaving water out for those migrants in the desert who might otherwise die of thirst?

Eotness said

None of the people on your hate list rooted for anyone's murder; the most you said above was that they did not rush to virtue signal by condemning an attack on an ICE facility. And you are stretching the meaning of 'condemning America's existence' to the breaking point. Criticizing America, saying it is going down a wrong path, is not condemning its existence. If that was the case, every politician running for election against an incumbent running for reelection would be condemning America's existence. They all say something is wrong and needs to be changed. Otherwise, why run for office? It is as if you are saying that a teacher is condemning the existence of any student who gets an F on an exam.

I think the whole lot of you are missing the deeper point in all of this in favor of shallow impressions like Avi Green has done in the past.

Genet was a resident of France, not America. He was come back to France for his activities, not his words. Also, the issue with the progressive horde in France was not excessively they were practicing their entitlement to free discourse, nor was the government a reason worth battling for.Refrigerated truck rental