Kurt Busiek justifies excessive politics in storytelling
To say that Kurt Busiek is a comics legend would be an understatement. The 59-year-old writer has worked with almost every publisher in the business and he has been responsible for some of the most beloved books in the graphic medium including 'Marvels' and 'Astro City'.Yes, but how much has he done in the past decade? Outside of creator-owned writings like Astro City and Arrowsmith, his work of recent for the majors has been minor. And his now stridently leftist politics - to say nothing of a potential self-rejection of his past work on superhero books - is why he may not be viewed as much of a legend lately. I know he recently returned to Marvel to script another followup to his Marvels miniseries, but who knows if it'll work well this time? A few years ago, I read a 2008 sequel to the 1994's Marvels called Eye of the Camera, where reporter Phil Sheldon passed away at the end, and if there was something I'd noticed there, although Mary Jane Watson did make a minor appearance, nothing seemed to come up about hers and Peter Parker's marriage, and the story itself stopped circa the year 1987, presumably just prior to such events. I vaguely recall Busiek stating he wasn't a fan of the marriage, gallingly enough, and I suspect that bias played into the crafting of the Marvels sequel, which did come out shortly after One More Day.
Here's the posts themselves, where he can only think to justify what he doesn't have the courage to call leftism, at all costs:
I pointed out earlier that comics (like virtually any storytelling medium) have never been politics-free, and an angry comicsgator responded “Keep losing money, then.”— Kurt Busiek Resists (@KurtBusiek) March 11, 2020
Which is dumb on several fronts.
First, the comics industry isn’t actually losing money. They’re figuring out how to deal with changing sales and distribution patterns, but they’re making bucks.— Kurt Busiek Resists (@KurtBusiek) March 11, 2020
I mean, even the much-blathered claim that lots of comics stores closed turned out to be nonsense when compared to...
But it seems to be a basic tenet of the gators that entertainment should be inoffensive (as they flock to support creators who are deliberately offensive to people they don’t like).— Kurt Busiek Resists (@KurtBusiek) March 11, 2020
Their actions, in doing that, show more truth than their statements, as actions usually do.
So all those 50-plus stores closing in the past few years isn't nonsense? The man must be living in a bubble deliberately. Even if some stores are opening, it's not enough to replace those closing, and besides, when a store closes, it is a loss. Also, how come Busiek isn't laying out sales figures here, or acknowledging less than a million copies sold is not a cause for celebration? All he seems to care about is an excuse to attack the Comicsgate campaign for the umpteenth time.
The road to success is not about being inoffensive. Inoffensive things fail plenty, while “offensive” things often thrive.— Kurt Busiek Resists (@KurtBusiek) March 11, 2020
The way to success is to be involving, engaging, gripping.
It doesn’t matter if you offend some people, as long as you attract enough other people.
If you have an audience that’s excited about what you do, and the entire membership of One Millions Moms is picketing it as fast as she can go, congratulations, you’re good.— Kurt Busiek Resists (@KurtBusiek) March 11, 2020
If you make your project less offensive to avoid chasing Mrs. OMM off, you’ll likely lose a lot more ...
…people who’d have liked it.— Kurt Busiek Resists (@KurtBusiek) March 11, 2020
As noted, DC had a hit with Superman when Superman took a stand. Captain America took a stand. Marvel took stands for various things over the years.
There were people who disagreed with every single one of those stands.
Does he mean the time when Superman rejected his US citizenship in 2011? Or when Captain America stood with Hydra in 2016? Those weren't exactly blockbuster successes, yet they do contradict what Busiek's trying to convince us all about.
And here's where the bias becomes clear. Busiek despises OMM's objections to glorification of homosexuality so much, he's decided to use them as an example...but he won't say whether it's good when you piss off Communism, Islamism and LGBT advocates, or even leftists dominating universities, news reporters not unlike J. Jonah Jameson, Antifa and Planned Parenthood. If it's only right-leaning sources like OMM he considers worth offending, you know what kind of politics he's really representing (what if he really thinks it's okay to offend women, since OMM is a mainly lady-led outfit?). Let's remember what this man was supporting a few years ago, before liberals themselves realized it wasn't working out for them, and all but withdrew their position.
Graphic violence in entertainment is another problem bringing down entertainment everywhere, but unlike female sexuality, propagandists consider jarring mayhem acceptable and deserving of a free pass. That's why, if you haven't seen alleged professionals talk about how widespread violence has become in showbiz, you may not see them discuss it tomorrow either.
But rather than try to be viewpoint-free, Marvel and DC knew they were winning over readers, even if there were other people who weren’t interested.— Kurt Busiek Resists (@KurtBusiek) March 11, 2020
Being inoffensive is not the goal. Being engaging is.
Excite an audience. It’s about the audience you attract, so go get ‘em.— Kurt Busiek Resists (@KurtBusiek) March 11, 2020
So be it, but why not identify specifically what audience you seek? If you want a leftist audience, just say so. At least then, you'll be providing some clarification. And if you think it was entirely justified for Steve Rogers to join an outfit similar to nazis and call out "hail Hydra", then you might as well come clean and say so there too. What we'd be much happier about is if they'd consider the more subtle approach used by earlier writers, who usually just made their points simple and left it at that, without going to extremes to say family and parenthood is inherently evil, or whitewash Islamic terrorism and Communism, and even denigrate capitalism, even as the same SJWs who uphold socialism continue to make use of capitalism to push their propaganda.
Busiek's not the only one, by the way, who's taking a rose-colored view of the business. Even Ron Marz appears to be influenced by his flawed approach:
So I can tell you a few things:— Ron Marz (@ronmarz) March 11, 2020
1) Comics are doing pretty well. Could always be doing better, but there's a wide range of material for a wide range of readers, especially kids. That's very good news.
2) There are always going to be unhappy people who want to throw rocks at anybody they can, and who are quite willing to believe the grievance snake oil sold to them by people exploiting them for money and adulation. Tale as old as time.— Ron Marz (@ronmarz) March 11, 2020
3) Once in a while, you can explain to someone how things work, or show someone facts, and they'll get it. But far more often, they're so invested in the sense of community that their bubble gives them, they reject it all.— Ron Marz (@ronmarz) March 11, 2020
4) Not much you can do about it, except use the Mute and Block buttons to whatever extent makes you are comfortable. Your social media is your garden, and you should cultivate it as you want. Prune the weeds and invasive species. You don't owe anyone your time or attention.— Ron Marz (@ronmarz) March 11, 2020
I don't like how he's claiming there's those who want to throw rocks at everyone, even if, unlike Busiek, he didn't resort to scapegoating Comicsgate, which would be doing just what he's talking about - grievance-mongering. It's superfluous, and doesn't improve the discussion. But, let's continue to see what else he wrote:
5) I also think there are far more good people than bad on here. This is a punch bowl. You kind of expect the punch to be good. But if there are a few turds floating in the punch bowl, you sure as hell notice them, and it sure as hell ruins the punch.— Ron Marz (@ronmarz) March 11, 2020
7) Comics do not work like a restaurant where you order what you want off a menu, and it's made specifically for you. Comics work like a supermarket, where there's a myriad of choices on the shelves, and you can pick what appeals to you.— Ron Marz (@ronmarz) March 11, 2020
9) Wash your damn hands. A lot.— Ron Marz (@ronmarz) March 11, 2020
That's all I've got.
Sure, there are a lot more choices, but depending which ones we're talking about, not all are suitable for children. Some contain LGBT propaganda, and IDW's adaptations of Jem & the Holograms, for example, contained some of this, while Brian Bendis' retcon of Iceman is self-evident. The main reason sensible parents and anyone else find it objectionable is because it's being depicted in an otherwise positive light, with no questions allowed whether it's a poor example. If children's fare cannot be done without practically mandating such ideas, then there's no proper choice being allowed in what to choose. When some people responded, Marz's reaction to one was:
If that's the chart you're using, you're only looking at Direct Market sales numbers for single issue comics, which is only one aspect of how comics are sold. It's one slice of a much larger pie.— Ron Marz (@ronmarz) March 12, 2020
Whether it's monthly issues or trade paperback/hardcovers, what matters is that individual products in this medium are selling far below a million copies, and that makes it a joke. The worst part is that, no matter how remarkable classic creations were decades before, even they didn't all print and sell more than a million, and when you look at the results from a realist POV, it's just sad when you realize the industry's never been as huge and prosperous as some would like you to believe. Above all, it attests to an epic failure of industrialists to build up the medium into a higher selling business, without resorting to easy gimmicks like expanding into merchandise and filmmaking, which haven't led to higher sales either.
Does it occur to you that Marvel and DC are not the whole of the industry? The Direct Market is not the only market. The places people buy comics, as well as the kinds of people who buy comics, are evolving. That's why sales records are being set. https://t.co/JbG5P1FPhi pic.twitter.com/ef9qyuMv78— Ron Marz (@ronmarz) March 12, 2020
Of course DC/Marvel aren't all there is. But it's not like the rest of the industry is doing any better in their approach to sales, and if Image or IDW are pushing far-left politics into their books, that only discourages a wider audience from applying. Something Marz doesn't seem interested in acknowledging.
First, sales are calculated in dollars. More dollars is good. Comics are sold to a much wider ranger of readers than even a decade ago (see the exponential growth in YA OGNs). You know the number of readers is not going up ... how, exactly?— Ron Marz (@ronmarz) March 12, 2020
Well, somebody certainly seems to be buying a lot of Raina's books. And DC's continued investment in YA OGNs is not because people aren't reading them. Again, not being snarky, but asking for your evidence that there are less readers.— Ron Marz (@ronmarz) March 12, 2020
It's not that nobody's reading them. It's that too few are to justify their existence, and the YA segment is so flooded with horrific bias, there's little reason for anybody writing novels to market under that label. Not that you could expect Marz to admit it, though. He's too busy lambasting right-leaning politicians like Donald Trump, as usual:
Quite literally, more people will die because Trump was more concerned about reelection. Which is kind of what happens when you put a sociopath in office. https://t.co/ZvUnhdCZVB— Ron Marz (@ronmarz) March 12, 2020
NPR smears, and Marz parrots, with no gratitude to Trump for doing what's necessary to cut down on the Coronavirus cases. Nor does he care about the overseas negligence that led to this whole outbreak. Busiek's not all that different. But maybe the most important point of all to make is that, when creators insult their customers, among other divisive actions, they cannot be surprised if and when they lose sales on their books, particularly the books they created themselves. For example, Marz's Kickstarter-funded project, Demi-God, according to this video, has less than 100 investors. It wouldn't surprise me if any recent sales of Busiek's Astro City have experienced declines for the same reasons. Maybe comics are doing well, but what about creator-owned products coming from anybody who denigrates the consumers? That's what they don't consider.
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You can make a lot of money and reach a lot of people without selling a million copies of a book. None of the comics Marvel put out in its 1960s heyday of creativity ever reached the million mark or anywhere near. Only a very few extremely popular characters have ever reached that number on a steady basis. Uncle Scrooge, the Fawcett Captain Marvel, probably Superman and Batman, back in the 1940s. In book publishing, selling tens of thousands of copies is phenomenal. Sheena Queen of the Jungle boasted of its success in leading the market when they reached 500,000 copies. Bear in mind that copies sold to the public are read by more than one person; library copies, copies read and resold to a used bookstore or given away, copies shared within the family or among friends.
And since when is artistic success measured in sales and dollars? Moby Dick was a failure when it first came out.
Posted by Anonymous | 11:25 AM
Mad magazine at his height hit well over a million in circulation figures.
Posted by Anonymous | 11:52 AM
the video about Marz is a bit out of date! He has 247 investors and has more than met his investment goal, raising over $24,000.
Posted by Anonymous | 5:13 PM
Nope. The video is about a book called Demi-God" on Kickstarter which as of this post has 95 backers and is far less than reached its goal.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dreadgods/demi-god-the-complete-series
Posted by Bralnator | 6:49 AM
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dreadgods/demi-god-my-kick-ass-graphic-novel
The complete series posting has only been up for a week!
Posted by Anonymous | 12:41 PM